Hey friends, welcome to the Rhythms for Life podcast, where each week we talk about rhythms for

building resilience, so you can take charge of your mental, spiritual, and relational help.

These ideas come from Rebecca's best-selling book, Building a Resilient Life,

How Adversity Awakened Strength, Hope, and Meaning. So grab your copy, invite your friends,

and let's build resilience together.

Welcome back from Rebecca. And I'm Gabe, welcome to our summer series, Building Resilience,

presented by MetaShare, the Affordable Biblical Alternative to Health Insurance.

Well, I hope you enjoyed Mike and Gabe's conversation last week. It was so insightful,

so brilliant. Well, we're loving these conversations because they do force us to think about some

things that maybe are uncomfortable to talk about but help us become more resilient and think

about the future and today's not going to be any different. Yeah, what I love about this

conversation today as well as last week is that we have agency to change. We can affect

something in our purview, right in front of us. And I think when I start, even in the book where

I write the chapter about smaller but stronger, it's like when we look at the people in our lives,

our everyday lives embodied real people, not online, that we care for, that we protect,

that we try to provide food and sustain. To me, it feels really primal. It feels like what we're

made to do. There's something really in me that God put in me about making sourdough bread or

pulling something from the garden. It's just something working with your hands just feels very

satisfying when maybe most of your work is online or you're talking. Well, it's just,

it's how we're designed and we've gotten so far away from it that now it feels foreign to talk

about these old ways that humans lived, right? That feels weird and yet it's not weird. It's not

weird. It's the way human beings functioned for so long. And of course, we all love the technological

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