Welcome to the Not Old Better Show on radio and podcast, the show covering all things health, wellness, culture, and more.

The show for all of us who aren't old, were better. Each week we'll interview superstars, experts, and ordinary people, doing extraordinary things, all related to this wonderful experience

of getting better, not older.

Now, here's your host, the award-winning Paul Vogelsang.

Welcome to the Not Old Better Show Art of Living interview series. I'm Paul Vogelzang, and today's

episode is brought to you by Acorns. Acorns is a financial wellness app that makes it easy to start

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As you listen to the beautiful theme music that plays softly underneath here,

let's talk about something many of us face, but rarely say out loud, getting dumped.

After decades together.

The shock, the empty chair at breakfast, the ache, that feels like it might

stop your heart? Susie Hopkins has been there. After a 30-year marriage ended without

warning, she found herself asking the questions so many in our audience have asked,

how do I take the first step? What now? Who am I? And who am I on my own?

From the beloved mother-daughter team behind What to Do When I'm Gone,

Susie and her daughter, New Yorker illustrator, Hallie Bateman, returned with what to do

when you get dumped a poignant, funny, and beautifully drawn guide to unbreaking your heart.

The book counts down from the moment you get the news,

minute by minute, day by day, offering practical steps and tender reminders.

Set boundaries with the phone and with the past.

Eat something warm.

Call a friend, take a walk.

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