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Seeing Red A True Crime Podcast

Drowned in Deception: The Brutal Murder of Rita Fleming

Seeing Red A True Crime Podcast

Mark Randell & Bethan Trueman

True Crime

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

When police were called to a quiet West London flat in June 2024, they found 70-year-old Rita Fleming dead in her bathtub — fully clothed. Her partner, Clifford Cowen, insisted it was a tragic accident. But something about the scene didn’t add up. In this episode of Seeing Red, we uncover the disturbing truth behind what really happened in that flat — a story of control, cruelty, and the lengths one man went to hide the evidence of what he’d done. Why not BINGE our back catalogue of over a HUNDRED Patreon exclusive bonus episodes? Sign up and you can access them on Spotify really easily (or on the Patreon app, or wherever you normally listen - cancel any time): www.patreon.com/seeingredpodcast If you would like to GIFT a Patreon membership to a special someone, head to www.patreon.com/seeingredpodcast/gift If you would like to buy us a coffee (or wine!), hit the link below: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/seeingredtw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your merch here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.seeingredpodcast.co.uk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Theme music arranged and composed by Holly-Jane Shears - check her work out at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.soundcloud.com/DeadDogInBlackBag⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Co-Producer: Ade Parsley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Can I say hello and welcome to seeing red this time?

0:36.1

Because I don't know when I last said it and it's weird, isn't it? Yeah. I'm going to do it wrong now. Hello and welcome to Seeing Red, a true crime podcast. I'm Bethan. And I'm Mark. Welcome back for another episode. Oh, it was weird. It was weird for me. I didn't really know what to say. I don't know what you normally say at that point. But, you know, we were debating this whether Bethan was going to go first or whether I was.

1:00.4

Such a man taking charge, taking control.

1:04.7

This is what's wrong with all men.

1:06.5

This is.

1:07.2

This is the patriarchy, Bethan.

1:09.2

This is it.

1:10.1

This is the patriarchy enforced at work. I is it. I'm going to say first.

1:11.9

I'm going to speak first.

1:13.5

It's disgusting.

1:15.3

Let's take a moment to thank our most recent patron supporters.

1:18.1

Bethan, did you want to do the honours as you're taking charge in this male dominated world in which we live?

1:24.0

I will.

1:24.6

So a huge thank you to all of our Patreon supporters, but this week our newest patron

1:29.4

supporters are Marie, Joseph Buckley, Mary Ellen Cheney, Martina Tears, or Tyres.

1:36.8

Not quite sure, but I would say Tears, but just in case it's tyres.

1:40.5

I would say tyres.

1:42.0

You'd say tyres?

1:42.9

Oh, okay.

1:43.8

Well, we have both on there.

1:45.2

Martina Tears.

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