Okay, I'm pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work.

Okay. Three podcasts ago, I started talking about Odyssey. And then the last podcast, I started talking about cards from Odyssey, telling you stories about some of the cards from the set.

But I had a lot of cards to talk about, so I did not finish.

So today is me finishing.

So last I left, I think I talked about holistic wisdom last time.

So we're going to talk about Ivy Elemental.

So when, in Tempest, the very first set I got to design cards for, where I was in charge of. I made a card that ended up being

called crackling. And what my goal was, I wanted to make an XG card that just made a zero

zero creature with X plus one encounter's. So essentially, XG make an X size creature. In fact,

in design, it was called creature ball.

And anyway, I was told that I couldn't do XG and it changed and it got trampled, but XGG.

Anyway, I kept trying to make creature ball.

I tried, and I tried, and eventually I finally, as creatures got a little better, I finally, in Odyssey, was able to make

creature ball, which is XG, you know, essentially an XX creature.

It comes in with X plus and plus one counters.

And anyway, I'm excited that I finally got to make it.

And one of the things I often talk about is how you don't always get to make something the first time out.

I mean, one of the lessons of doing design on an ongoing game is that, look, this game is going to last a long time.

We'll have a lot of opportunities to make things.

If what you want doesn't go in one set, look, if it's a good idea, eventually they'll get made.

And so there's a lot of stories of me just like wanting to get something made and then it taking time.

But eventually, you know, stick around long enough and be stubborn enough, you can get it in.

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