Okay, I'm pulling on my driveway. That means it's another time for a drive to work. So, I have a special treat for you guys today. Say hello.

Hi. It is Ethan Fleischer. Ethan is carpooling with me today so that he can join us for today's podcast.

And unlike McEvada, who actually sometimes I carpal with,

Ethan decided to join me just to be on the podcast.

I thought it would be fun, so here I am.

Okay, so the topic I decided for today was the great designer search,

which is something Ethan is very familiar with.

So what I thought we'd do first is talk about how it came to be,

and then we're going to walk through Ethan's entire run with the Great Designer Search, too, that is.

So, Ethan, can you tell me the story, since I've told the story many times,

can you tell the public the story of how the Great Designer Search started? I believe, let me see. You had a slot open. A position was going to be available as for a designer. And you asked your boss at the time who was... Before Aaron.

Randy Bueller? Randy Bueller

Randy Bueller okay

if you could fill it

any way you wanted

and he said yes

and so you did an American Idol

style contest

to determine

who was going to be

the next magic designer

okay well let me fill the gaps in here. That's pretty good.

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