I'm pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work.

Okay. So today, I have a little more offbeat topic. Um, so one of the things that's

interesting is I talk a lot, uh, when I talk about the history of magic, I tend to talk about, um,

the game itself. And I've talked about the people, but I haven't talked

about sort of the game playing. So when I first got to Wizards, I mean, I was a game player. I've

been a gameplay in my entire life, but that one of the things about my early time at Wizards is I felt like I really got an education in games.

And today is going to be about showing some stories of early Wizards days with a focus on game playing.

A little bit of magic, but a lot of other types of games as well.

So, anyway, this is kind of a reminiscent story podcast.

Just talking about kind of where R&D once upon a time was.

It's different now.

Or I'm different now.

But anyway, so when I first got a Wizards, like I said,

everybody who worked in R&D when I got there,

nobody was from Seattle.

Everybody had come from somewhere else.

And so really, everybody kind of, the social circle was the group of R&D,

and we hung around together, and we played games together because we were gamers.

And so a lot of my game education happened in my early days of Wizard. So I want to talk about that. So the first thing that

happened is the way it would work is we would work during the day. For dinner, we would always go out to eat at some restaurant.

In fact, I think I told the story of when I was dating Laura and she went to my cupboard

to get some food and there was nothing there and she opened the fridge and there's nothing

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