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The Dave Chang Show

Dried Squid: The Next Big Thing (After the Next Big Thing)

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Food, Arts, Society & Culture

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Dave makes a quick snack that you might see more and more often in the coming years: dried squid. He talks about the rising amount of cephalopods in the ocean, discusses the specific umami and texture of squid, and ponders whether it might be coming to more and more grocery store shelves near you. He also answers an Ask Dave about London eating and general dining strategy when on a short trip in a new place. Learn more about San Ho Won: https://www.sanhowon.com/ Learn more about St. JOHN: https://stjohnrestaurant.com/ Learn more about Trishna: http://trishnalondon.com/ Learn more about Gymkhana: https://gymkhanarestaurants.com/ Learn more about Ambassadors Clubhouse: https://ambassadorsclubhouse.com/newyork/ Learn more about Ganbara: https://www.ganbarajatetxea.com/presentation Learn more about Seirinkan: https://theseirinkan.com/ Learn more about Savoy: https://savoy-azabujyuban.com/en Host: Dave Chang Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff, Nikola Stanjevich, Michael Delgado, Dan McCoy, Molly O'Keefe, Michael Berger Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian Editor: Jake Loskutoff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right, stay tuned because I'm going to share with you the next big thing in food.

0:11.3

May not happen this year, may not happen the following year, but at some point it's going to fucking happen.

0:15.7

And it's dried squid.

0:18.8

Welcome to the Dave Chang Show, part of the Ringer podcast network, presented by Major Doma

0:22.7

Media.

0:23.6

We are on Spotify and also Netflix.

0:26.9

All right here, I have a bunch of dried squid.

0:30.1

It's dried.

0:30.8

It's seasoned with a little bit of salt.

0:33.1

And I have a long love-of-hate relationship, mostly love with what we have right here. And in and of itself, you know, different forms, you get little ribbons, you get bigger chunks, you get different threads. This is a great snack. Again, I think I've explained my grandfather used to love eating this with peanuts. This is something you'll see in Japan. I don't know if the Chinese eat this as much, maybe on the coast, but being on the peninsula,

0:56.0

this Ojing-o is what squid is called, dried squid.

0:59.7

They love fresh squid as well.

1:01.1

This is something my parents, my grandparents, uncles, aunts, they would all nibble on this.

1:08.3

But this is not the form that I ate the most as a kid. And even my mother-in-law

1:14.8

now when she comes over and stays with us, she now makes Ojingomuchin, which is probably

1:21.2

like one of my favorite things. And this would be more of an anju, like a beer snack. When we

1:26.9

dress it up in this Gucci-Jong flavored, syrupy, sticky, almost cloying sauce,

1:33.3

it becomes more of a banchan, something that is like the sprouts, the namu, the spinach,

1:41.3

the other sort of small bites you would get with rice when you eat at a Korean

1:46.1

restaurant, the kimchi's, sometimes you get this.

1:49.3

And it's always been one of my favorites.

1:51.9

And I stopped eating this because it became weirdly uncool to me because it wasn't just me.

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