Hi, everyone. I'm Hillary Kerr, the co-founder and chief content officer of Who What Where?

And this is Second Life, a podcast spotlighting women who have truly inspiring careers. We're talking about their work journeys, what they've learned from the

process of setting aside their doubts or fears, and what happens when they embark on their

second life. Today on the show, I'm speaking with the TikTok sensation, podcaster, and author,

Drew Afawalo. Have you ever wished that you had a little voice on your

shoulder who stood up for you when you felt like you couldn't? Drew Afoallo is that person to

millions of fans across the world. A smart, witty, and unapologetic voice on social media. Drew got her

start making videos taking down, there's simply no other way

to say it, shitty, misogynistic men. Viewers gravitated toward her honest, comedic approach to

addressing the misogyny we see all over the internet. Over the last four years, she's rocketed

to notoriety. She has a Spotify exclusive podcast called The Comment

section with Drew Afiwalo, over 8 million fans on TikTok, and a new best-selling book,

Loud, except nothing less than the life you deserve. She's been named one of Forbes,

top creators, a Time magazine

Next Generation leader, and recently made the Hollywood Reporter's list of most influential influencers.

Drew may seem like she's got it all figured out now, but not long ago, she was out of crossroads

in her life. She studied sports journalism in college,

and after graduation, and a short stint working in PR, she landed what she thought was her dream

job, working in the media department of the NFL. But in January 2020, she was let go. Then the

pandemic hit, making her feel directionalous about what was next for her.

But one day, in the spring of 2020, she decided to download TikTok and start posting there.

Because why not? And the rest is history. The last four years have been a constant stream of

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