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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Dread on the Beach: Unearthing the Secrets of Gilgo's Unknown Killer

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

A chilling 911 call from Shannan Gilbert leads to the discovery of the bodies of Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Costello, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, and Megan Waterman on Long Island's Gilgo Beach, each sharing harrowing similarities: they are all wrapped in burlap and thought to be the victims of a single, unknown killer. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack take a closer look at the "Gilgo Beach Serial Killer" case, the crucial arrest of Rex Heuermann, and the groundbreaking use of forensic DNA, genetic genealogy, and physical evidence. They weave through the disturbing intricacies of the crime scene, the systematic preservation of the bodies, and the indelible impact on the Long Island community. Highlighting the importance of a careful examination of evidence, from weathered burlap to human hair, they shed light on the grueling process of analyzing skeletal remains and the complexities of such investigations.

Time-Codes:

  • [00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan introduces the concept of sackcloth, a symbol often associated with mourning, and links this to the eerie use of burlap in which victims' bodies were discovered on Long Island, New York. He reveals the episode's focus on the unsolved Gilgo Beach murders.
  • [00:02:00] The discovery of at least 11 bodies and disturbing details about four of the victims, all seemingly linked to a singular, unidentified killer.
  • [00:04:00] - Dave Mack recounts the harrowing story of Shannan Gilbert, whose 23-minute-long 911 call ironically led to the unearthing of several bodies.
  • [00:07:00] - Joe Scott expounds on the idea of geographic profiling and its relevance to the Gilgo Beach case, providing a unique understanding of the killer's methods.
  • [00:09:20] - Potential significance of the killer's use of camouflage burlap.
  • [00:14:09] - Discussion on the difficulties in determining the cause of death from skeletal remains and explanation of the need for a forensic anthropologist in complex cases, highlighting their critical role in helping to unravel the mystery of unidentified remains.
  • [00:19:00] - Focus on the importance of careful handling of evidence, stressing the potential for significant clues being held within items such as the burlap sacks.
  • [00:21:00] - Joe Scott discusses the possibility of finding tool marks on bones and the implications of such findings. He emphasizes the potential of these minor details to unravel larger truths.
  • [00:26:27] - Dave Mack probes the potential evidence left behind as a body decomposes in a burlap bag and questions the potential clues that can be unearthed even from decomposition.
  • [00:28:40] - Joseph Scott Morgan shares his reaction to the news of an arrest in the Gilgo Four case: the apprehension of Rex Heuermann, introducing a potential end to the long-unanswered questions.
  • [00:30:00] - Details about suspect Rex Heuermann, community reactions to his arrest, and discussion on how cutting-edge technology is helping to solve decade-old mysteries, giving victims' families hope of closure.
  • [00:34:43] - The role of behavioral analysis in identifying common patterns among the victims is discussed.
  • [00:37:14] - Delving into the forensic details of how Rex Heuermann’s wife's hair ended up at the crime scene and the role of CODIS in the investigation.
  • [00:39:10] - Explanation of how cell towers and triangulation were used to track the suspect's burner phone.
  • [00:40:00] - Key evidence reveal - a discarded pizza box from which the suspect's DNA was retrieved and an explanation of the process of extracting DNA from saliva on a pizza crust.

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0:00.0

Body bags with Joseph Scott Morgan.

0:20.3

For thousands of years, people have grieved when loss occurs, though we don't see everyone

0:27.9

that grieves, though we don't see those individuals who quietly go home to an empty chair perhaps.

0:34.7

There have been those times over history where people would publicly display their grief.

0:42.1

And it involved a particular type of clothing that I've always been fascinated by, the idea

0:48.9

of sack cloth.

0:51.3

And most of the time when you hear the term sack cloth, it's married up with the word ashes.

0:59.0

And for some, it's a dishonor of repentance.

1:02.9

For others, it is just out and out grief, the wailing and gnashing of teeth many times.

1:10.8

But today, we're going to talk about a type of sack cloth, a type of sack cloth otherwise

1:18.1

known as burlap.

1:20.1

And we're going to talk about bodies that have been discovered on long island in New York,

1:28.6

wrapped in burlap.

1:31.5

And most importantly, an individual that may very well be responsible for the kill-go-beach

1:41.4

murders.

1:42.4

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan.

1:45.7

And this is Body Bags.

1:53.7

For more than a decade, a string of murders linked to bodies found on Gilgo Beach when

1:58.3

unsolved.

1:59.3

At least 11 sets of human remains were found in a relatively small area.

2:04.1

At least four sets of remains have been linked to the same killer.

2:07.9

These bodies were found within 50 feet of each other.

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