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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Decoding the Gruesome Method: Chainsaws and the Horrors of Dismemberment

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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True Crime

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Neighbors, noticing the unusual absence of 71-year-old Margaret Craig, request that police perform a well-visit check at her residence.

Responding police officers are invited into the home, and upon entering the basement, they are met with the smell of decomposition and copious amounts of blood near plastic trash bags. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the disturbing case of Margaret Craig, whose life allegedly ended at the hands of her own daughter and granddaughter.

They navigate the complicated nature of the crime scene investigation, discussing the disposal of human remains, the increasing prevalence of dismemberment cases, and the psychological aspect of perpetrators becoming comfortable with such gruesome acts. Joseph Scott and Dave also explore the complexities of forensic analysis, focusing on the methodology and tools used in these horrific acts.

They also discuss the challenges faced by investigators in determining the sequence of events and how these intricacies could impact the jury's decision.

Time-Coded Highlights:

  • [00:00:20] Joseph Scott Morgan shares his personal experience using a chainsaw as a young man, setting the stage for the case discussion, and introduces the shocking case of Margaret Craig's death and dismemberment.
  • [00:04:44] The disturbing trend of perpetrators becoming comfortable with dismembering bodies.
  • [00:08:05] Noticing the absence of Margaret Craig, her neighbor calls for a welfare check. Upon entering the basement, police smell a foul odor and notice blood near three trash bags.
  • [00:11:04] Joe Scott explains the impact of plastic on decomposition, providing insight into the forensic aspects of the case.
  • [00:15:11] Discovery of brain matter and a disappearing knife.
  • [00:20:00] Dave Mack shares the account of Salia Hardy, the granddaughter of the victim, who provides the police with critical information about the crime.
  • [00:22:42] Joe Scott explains the difficulty in determining the sequence of events, particularly with the involvement of a chainsaw. He describes the concept of blood-cast and the unique patterns created during dismemberment with a chainsaw.
  • [00:30:20] Discussion on the methodology and tools used in dismemberment as well as a witness's report of seeing human remains being placed in a brush fire.
  • [00:32:26] Joseph Scott Morgan questions the presence of brain matter and highlights the importance of tool mark experts and the FBI’s access to different types of chainsaws in their forensic lab.
  • [00:33:57] Dave Mack updates listeners on the current status of the case.

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0:00.0

The toughest job I ever had, I guess, physically was when I was growing up.

0:26.2

I fainting myself a football player, and in order to stay in shape during the offseason,

0:32.5

I would cut wood.

0:34.2

This ranged from felling trees to also splitting the wood with generally a sledgehammer, a wedge,

0:43.6

a mall, and an axe, and stacking it up.

0:48.0

Hardest job physically that I've ever had in my life, but what comes into play is the

0:53.0

fact that I would have to use a chainsaw, and I learned to use one in an early age, and

0:58.6

it is a tool to be respected.

1:02.4

Today, I'm going to talk a little bit about a case that's come to my attention involving

1:09.0

a chainsaw, but this chainsaw was used and purposed in a way that not many people would think

1:17.6

of.

1:18.6

Today, we're going to talk about the death and dismemberment of Margaret Craig.

1:26.9

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Body Bags.

1:36.3

At this point in my life, my grandparents have long since been deceased, and with the

1:41.0

passing of each one, I grieved immensely.

1:43.7

I love my grandparents dearly on both sides, and many people can identify with that.

1:49.2

Never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine that I would be having a discussion with you,

1:56.9

Dave Mack, about a death involving a grandmother who was apparently, at some point in time,

2:02.9

really loved by the two alleged perpetrators, and in that discussion, we would talk about

2:09.2

chainsaw dismemberment and disposal of a body used in a barbecue girl.

2:14.3

Have you ever heard of anything like this before?

2:16.8

No, this is a whole new level of disgust, depravity.

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