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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Drake’s ‘Iceman’ Album Review. Plus, Tom Steyer’s Plan for California.

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 124 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel review Drake’s highly anticipated new album, ‘Iceman.’ Did it live up to the hype? Then they discuss a white college student’s alleged scheme to attract Black athletes before gubernatorial candidate Tom Steyer joins the podcast to shed light on his potential policies for the Golden State. (0:00) Intro (8:33) ‘Iceman’ album review (35:06) Black athlete scheme (54:59) Tom Steyer joins the show (1:56:00) Polls in CA races Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Tom Steyer Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.

0:09.0

Donnie.

0:09.7

What is up?

0:11.3

Tyler is on.

0:13.0

It is Ivan Lathin Jr.

0:14.7

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:16.4

Donnie, can we talk for a second?

0:18.5

Donnie, you knew this was coming today.

0:20.9

I mean, I don't want to be, I'm not, because I got love for Detroit.

0:24.1

Shout out to all my people in Detroit.

0:26.1

Shout out to Jason Wilson, Alexis, the whole family, Nicole, the young man, everybody.

0:33.0

Shout out to all my people in Detroit.

0:34.2

Shout out to Royster 5'9.

0:36.3

Shout out to all my people in Detroit. I got a Royster 5-9. Shout out to all my people in Detroit.

0:38.9

I got a lot of people in Detroit that I fuck with.

0:41.2

And the city right now must be kind of hanging their heads a little low.

0:46.6

Donnie, what the fuck was that last night?

0:49.3

Jesus Christ, bro.

0:50.5

What happened?

0:52.2

It was bad.

0:53.2

They did not meet the moment. But, you what? I have, I have a good job of looking at things from like a broad perspective. And I feel like with this team specifically, we're okay. Two years ago, we had a historically bad season. I think we're ahead of schedule.

1:11.7

We're young.

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