Chud the Builder Shot, and SEC Boycott? Plus, Tiffany D. Cross on Womanhood

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 158 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to Jason Lee and Peter Rosenberg’s "culture vulture" conversation and the AKA’s being upset with Rachel, before discussing Chud the Builder's shooting and arrest and calls for student-athletes to boycott SEC schools. Then author Tiffany D. Cross joins to talk about her new book, ‘Love, Me: A Letter to Black Women in a Toxic Country, Career, and Relationship.’ (0:00) Intro (13:47) Jason Lee, Peter Rosenberg and culture vulture accusations (27:12) AKA Sorority Inc. backlash (35:29) Chud the Builder shooting (45:57) SEC boycott (1:02:10) Tiffany D. Cross joins the show (1:07:56) What to love about being a Black woman (1:35:49) Black and interracial love (1:59:19) Scott Jennings and platforming conservatives Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Tiffany D. Cross Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.
0:09.7	What is up?
0:11.1	Higher Learning is on.
0:11.9	It is I, Van Lathen, Jr.
0:13.4	And it's me, Rachel and Lindsey.
0:15.0	Okay, so, first of all, I got a comment on this.
0:18.8	You got the TLC Creep thing going on right now.
0:20.6	Is that what
0:21.1	it's given yeah no no no this is this creep or is it yeah I guess it's great I was thinking
0:26.9	red light special for some reason yeah creep yeah it's creepy but nobody had on black
0:35.3	because it was no they did it was red. No, they did. It was red, blue.
0:38.3	Maybe it was black.
0:39.3	Let me try to think about it from memory.
0:43.3	Oh, gray.
0:44.3	T-Boss had red, left eye had blue.
0:48.3	No, that's not right.
0:49.3	Chili had.
0:51.3	Anybody that's listening right now, off the top of your head,
0:58.2	can you remember the colors of the silk pajamas or silk outfits that were being worn in the creep video?
1:05.9	The internet's not working, so I'm not cheating.
1:07.5	I think chili had the gray.
1:09.9	Chili had gray?
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