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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Arts, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Mary Talley Bowden is an ear, nose, and throat physician and founder of BreatheMD, a direct-care ENT clinic that emphasizes transparent pricing and outpatient airway care. She completed her residency at Stanford University, and she is board-certified in otolaryngology and sleep medicine, focusing her practice on sinus, sleep, and allergy disorders. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Dr. Bowden became a nationally prominent physician for opposing vaccine mandates, advocating for early outpatient treatment, and engaging in high-profile legal and regulatory disputes with hospital systems and medical boards. She is also the author of Dangerous Misinformation: The Virus, the Treatments, and the Lies, a memoir about her COVID-19 work and clashes with medical institutions, set for release in May 2026. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: AG1 https://DrinkAG1.com/tetra ------ LMNT Electrolytes https://DrinkLMNT.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Squarespace https://Squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

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0:00.0

Tetragrammaton.

0:06.1

I'm sort of a nerd growing up.

0:25.1

I loved school.

0:26.7

I loved homework.

0:28.2

I was good in science and math, and I wanted a career.

0:31.7

So that's where it sort of started.

0:33.0

But I remember thinking, I could never be a doctor.

0:35.6

Wow.

0:36.1

That's like, that's just too hard.

0:38.5

But then just bit by bit, it just happened.

0:41.9

I mean, it started with me just wanting to have a career,

0:46.1

wanting to be independent, and then curiosity for science

0:51.5

and curiosity about the human body.

0:54.6

After residency, did you open your own practice right away?

0:58.1

No. I mean, you have, so when you finish residency, you have a lot of options.

1:02.1

You can go on and do a fellowship.

1:04.7

You can join an academic practice.

1:08.4

You can join a big group practice. You can join a small practice or you can go solo.

1:15.2

I was done with the academic culture when I finished road and city. I wanted to get out of there.

1:20.8

I actually got a job offer at Kaiser in California, Northern California, but I didn't want to be an employee.

1:29.0

I wanted autonomy, but I was so young. I didn't want to go out solo yet either because

1:37.0

no one trains you during residency how to set up a practice. So I joined a small practice,

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