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Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Barry Diller

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin

Rick Rubin

Arts, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Barry Diller is a media executive and entrepreneur whose career has shaped modern television, film, and digital media. He helped redefine entertainment by innovating network programming at ABC, leading Paramount Pictures during a period of major commercial success, and later launching the Fox Broadcasting Company, establishing the United States’ fourth major television network. He expanded his influence into digital commerce as chairman of IAC and Expedia Group, building and scaling companies such as Match, Expedia, and Vimeo.  In recognition of his impact in media, he was inducted into the Television Academy Hall of Fame in 1994 and later reflected on his life and career in his memoir, Who Knew. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: AG1 https://DrinkAG1.com/tetra ------ Squarespace https://Squarespace.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Athletic Nicotine https://www.AthleticNicotine.com/tetra Use code 'TETRA' ------ Sign up to receive Tetragrammaton Transmissions https://www.tetragrammaton.com/join-newsletter

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0:00.0

Tetrogrammaton

0:02.0

Tetragrammaton When I was a kid, there were three television networks.

0:29.3

There was a rotary dial that you turned to get these three video television choices.

0:38.7

And over the next 20, 30 years,

0:44.3

we saw first a number of cable, quote,

0:49.1

stations, close quote, came into being.

0:51.8

And then I remember being at a cable convention in, I think, the early 70s,

1:00.8

where John Malone, a great cable pioneer, was on the stage and said,

1:08.4

there will be a 500- 500 channel universe, cable universe.

1:13.6

And that was the first time anyone said it, and you may recall this, the 500 channel universe,

1:19.7

which for about a decade after was the reference point.

1:24.6

And of course, how overly true that is. We have way more than that. If you take

1:30.8

YouTube, et cetera, we have thousands and thousands of, quote, channels, close quote. So I've seen this

1:37.4

evolution of enormous scarcity, basically three places that you could view things, to what we have today.

1:48.0

All of that has not, though, changed the essential nature of, call it mass communication

1:55.0

media, which is when you got an idea and then you can execute it, make it, whether it's a television series

2:03.4

or a movie or whatever, while the distribution methods have changed, the form factor may

2:09.4

have changed, but the form hasn't changed.

2:11.8

It's still storytelling.

2:13.3

It's always going to be storytelling of one form or the other.

2:17.1

Has the fact that it went from the three networks to now maybe unlimited possibilities,

2:23.8

changed anything?

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