Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome. I am Karen Hunter and while yes, I am awesome, this podcast is about

people and the things that they have to offer to you. I believe in speaking things into existence.

So it is with that, I offer you these amazing

people, these awesome topics. Sit back and enjoy. This gentleman, I feel like I've known him

a long time, most of my life. I feel like I've known you since I was in my early 30s because you

would come up to the Daily News and hang out with Leon Carter, who was the sports editor

at the New York Daily News and dear, dear friend of yours and mine, and we would, you know, pass.

Now we've talked and we've chatted.

I've read all of your novels.

And this program that you've been on, which I feel like has been a couple of decades,

helping people lose weight, has been

a standard for you now. And the latest book is The Last 15, which is a transformative seven-week

program to help men and women overcome the hardest weight to lose that last 15 pounds. Let me welcome

back to the show, Dr. Ian K. Smith. Hello. Hey, hey, hey,

good to see you. Good to see you. Yeah, it's been a while, a long time. I just talked to

Leon the other day, actually. Leon Carter. Yes, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Stand up before God.

Yes. Oh, man. You know, being in quote-unquote media, because I actually don't

consider myself like a media person, even though I think I am in it. You are. Yeah, no, I am in it. But,

you know, there's a performance part of media that I detest, so I don't participate in it. But, you know,

you have to kind of navigate those spaces. And you've done that very well. I've been But, you know, you have to kind of navigate those spaces.

And you've done that very well.

I've admired your ability to be able to be in these spaces

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