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FranklinCovey On Leadership

Dr. Henry Cloud: Your Desired Future

FranklinCovey On Leadership

FranklinCovey

Management, Business

4.6 • 215 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

What if the biggest barrier to your goals lives inside your own head? In this episode, Dr. Henry Cloud—renowned clinical psychologist, executive coach, bestselling author, and co-founder of a large healthcare organization—joins Jennifer Colosimo to unpack the ideas behind his new book, Your Desired Future: The 5 Essential Steps That Take You Where You Want to Go. Drawing on neuroscience, psychology, and years working in the “war rooms” with CEOs and executive teams, Henry explains why effort alone rarely closes the gap between vision and execution. He introduces a simple but powerful model, inspired by how the human body moves from “here” to “there,” to help leaders clarify the future they want, recruit the right talent, and design strategies that actually work. Along the way, he explores how self-doubt, unexamined assumptions, and missing structural elements quietly stall progress—and what you can do to consistently create the results you intend. FranklinCovey’s world-class learning solutions—delivered Live-Online, On Demand, or Live In-Person—are designed to build exceptional leadership skills and enrich your culture at every level of your organization. To learn more, email us at info@franklincovey.com, visit franklincovey.com, or call us at: 1-888-868-1776

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0:00.0

It's very, very possible that our biggest barrier to what we want is inside of our skull.

0:13.7

If we don't start there and ask a question, how do I think that this ought to work that may not include some things that are needed

0:25.1

to make it work?

0:27.8

What am I thinking about this that may not apply to what I'm trying to do, what I need

0:32.9

to learn?

0:33.9

What self-doubt?

0:35.4

What self-criticist?

0:36.4

I mean, just take that one.

0:37.9

You know, you go to casting vision.

0:40.2

I've seen leaders, they've had the greatest product or idea or whatever, and they've got to go raise money.

0:49.3

And they've got to cast a vision.

0:51.1

You know, they go to Silicon Valley or somewhere, and they got to cast a vision to these

0:54.8

really smart people, BCs and all that. And they get up there and a little voice starts to say,

1:05.0

why are they going to believe me? I've never done anything. Why would they? Okay, once that starts

1:09.7

to happen, what happens is the brain changes,

1:13.6

and everybody knows all the biochemistry involved in this, and the cortisol goes up,

1:17.5

and the adrenals go up, and the prefrontal cortex shuts down. But not only that, the chemistry

1:25.0

of the attraction and the buy-in, even in sales, there's an

1:32.6

interpersonal dyad that happens that comes from your own brain and the energy and the

1:39.2

connection and asking people and getting people and coming in its face. Well, that voice that stopped it all is in

1:46.8

your head. So we better deal with that one. Welcome to Franklin Covey's On Leadership. I'm your host,

1:59.9

Jennifer Colisemo. Every leader knows the frustration

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