Hey guys and welcome to episode 20 the OCD stories.com podcast now I just wanted to thank you so much for your support over the last five months now is it? I decided to do one a week because I wanted to make more impact. I wanted to

help people more and it's tough and but it's also heavily rewarding and I

wanted to thank you for your support and the motivation in that process.

I have listeners all over the world in many countries.

I think it's 56 countries that listen into this podcast.

So I'm going to the thank you ever you listen for iTunes,

Stichor, some other Android app or YouTube you're watching and seeing

the therapists and the ACD sufferers beautiful faces each week.

But yeah, you know, thank you so much for your support and encouragement.

I really hope it's helping you in any other way I can be of service,

please let me know. I'm always approachable hey at the

O city stories.com it's the email. But in this week we have Dr. Chad Lejeune

he's author of The Worry Trap which is an incredible book about dealing with

worrying anxiety. He is also an OCD therapist. So we touch on kind of that worry and anxiety and OCD it's all part of one one spectrum

and you can fall at various lengths of it and now that was an interesting

concept we talk about clean versus dirty anxiety.

I have to let you watch that to understand it because I'll just butcher it.

And let's talk about acceptance of commitment therapy. He studied under Dr Stephen Hayes who was he's the founder of Act and it was also the fourth guest on this podcast.

Yeah, he's an incredible guy we talk talk about breathing. He gives some real practical advice about

effective ways to breathe to kind of lower anxiety, which will obviously help you for heavy

anxious or maybe having a panic attack.

So yeah, I think you're going to get a lot out this episode.

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