With some guests here on downstream, you're guaranteed to have a hit.

You're guaranteed to get a ton of views on YouTube, viral clips on social media.

You're guaranteed to have a fascinating conversation.

Why? Because of their personality,

because they've got a ton of interesting things to say, because they're original thinkers.

Today's guest meets all of those metrics. They are, without doubt, one of the most interesting

intellectuals in Europe. Today, they also happen to be very left wing. We've spoken to them a few

times before, particularly about things like techno-fudalism, current affairs, politics, what's going

on in the world. But their latest book is a memoir. Raise Your Soul, a personal history of resistance.

It looks at five women in the life of this week's guest. And that guest

is, of course, the one only Janice Verifakis, former finance minister in Greece. Janis,

nice to have you back on downstream. It's great to be back. It's great to have you back. I think

this is, what, a third, fourth time? Let's not count. Let's not count. Let's keep going. Let's never stop. Every time is a pleasure. We're talking about your new book, Raise Your Soul, a personal history of resistance. It's very different to what you've previously written. Very, very different.

Very different.

Indeed.

You've written sort of first person narratives of political events in real time,

like the post-2015 context.

But this is basically not just your life story.

It's not really your life story at all, actually.

It's the story of multiple family members.

It's actually five women. Five women.

They intended subtitle until the good people in

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