It's just really important to put aside time to just be friends because we obviously could talk about fishwife until the cows came home.

But then you lose sight of the energy that you share as friends and like the energy that led to you starting a collaboration, starting a project together. Let me let it out.

Hi, you're listening to Let It Out with me, Katie Delbout. This week I speak with two guests, Becca Milstein and Caroline Goldfarb.

After living with each other at the beginning of the pandemic, they were observing each other's

eating habits, which you'll hear all about in this week's episode.

And eventually, they got a business idea, a tend fish company called Fishwife, which I love.

We bond over foods that we all love and enjoy, and we talk about the stigma associated

with eating foods that people traditionally scoff at and hiding what we eat and hiding our

tastes.

And we have this really interesting conversation about taste and food and eating and of course the connection to body image.

And that was an interesting part of the conversation I wasn't expecting.

And we also speak about working with close friends, starting a business, transitioning careers.

Becca's background is in the music industry.

And Caroline, you might know as the viral

internet artist who goes by official Sean Penn on Instagram. If you're not already following

official Sean Penn, you're living under a rock, but Caroline is hilarious. She's truly one of the

most funny people I've ever encountered on the internet. She has a

robust career as a comedy writer and a podcast host of many podcasts. And we cover writing and her

processes with that as well as juggling multiple projects and being, as she says, prone to

collaborations. And Becca and Caroline give great advice on productivity

and habits and routines and beauty products that help them. And it's a really fun conversation

that I'm excited for you to hear. This week, I want to highlight an organization that we have highlighted

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