I tend to like get really excited about passion that comes with connection,

but I have a really hard time with like the commitment that comes with intimacy.

And so I think I learned how to make deep connections really quickly,

but I never learned how to like sustain those.

And I think right now I'm learning that part of intimacy. Let me let it out.

Hello, welcome back.

You're listening to Let It Out with me, your host, Katie Dilbao.

Today on the podcast, Lori Gessov. She is one of my favorite writers.

She explores topics related to intimacy and identity and interconnection, which are all topics that I'm fascinated by and constantly reflecting on and talking about with my friends and on this podcast.

And L'ore reached out to me a couple of months ago to actually interview me for the Creative

Independent.

And that interview came out last week, which we'll link to.

And we mentioned this in this conversation.

But basically, we spoke for over two hours and she

asked me a lot of questions and now this is my turn getting to have a conversation with her,

which spawns across so many different topics. We talk about social media and connection and dating.

We really get into dating and dating right now and what it's brought up for us.

We talk about indecision and intention and writing.

She's such a tremendous writer and thinker.

She has written for Modern Love, the New York Times. She's

written for man-repeller. And we talk about some of these essays and poems that she wrote that

really had an impact on me. We explore an array of topics in this from moving to New York in the

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