From KCRW, Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment, which you can also hear at KCRW.com.

One of my guests, Oscar-nominated actor Don Chittles, plays so many characters who measure themselves

by the way they read other people in films such as out of sight or in TV shows such as,

well, his newest, his return to television, House of Lies.

He plays the characters who do that.

Don, would you say that's a

big part of the way you've approached a lot of the people you've played? Well, obviously,

with Marty Khan, that is one of his go-to tools, is the ability to read a room and break it down

and find where the weakness is and, you know, push on the sore spot. So I guess that's applicable in this one.

I hadn't thought about it in others, but I think that it's more of just a makeup of Don Chedal

that is what's attributable to that.

We're also joined by the man who brought House of Lives to television, the executive producer

of this show, Matthew Carhann.

Matthew, thanks for much for being here, too.

Great to be here, thanks.

And talk about that, about finding that, because when watching the show, I just thought about

something, even go to Hotel Rwanda or so many things that Don has done.

He's played guys who either make a point of it or don't make a point of announcing it,

but they read people. And I wonder if that wasn't things that you saw in

him when you guys are talking about the show. Well, in his field, in Marty Khan's field of management

consulting, it's a really important piece of the job is to be able to look at somebody,

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