From KCRW, Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment, which you can also hear at KCRW.com.

My guest, writer Graham Yose, tends to work best on your rights pieces that look at both points of view.

You could say that was kind of the motor behind the film Speed.

Also, part of his film Broken Arrow is definitely what built the show Boomtown, for which he was last year.

His most recent series is justified, which is in its third season on FX.

First of all, Graham, welcome back.

Nice to be back, Ellis.

Thanks for having me.

And there is that kind of moral relativism for you where you do look at things from two points of view.

And that's something that's been a pretty big theme in your work.

Yeah, you know, go back to a credit that I think appears on IMDB, but I didn't get on a screen

credit was for a movie with the unfortunate title Operation Dumbow Drop.

Oh, Dennis Leary.

Dennis Leary.

Actually, that was one of the high points of the thing, was hanging out with him one night.

But I remember talking to one of the producers, Robert Court, Bob Cort.

And, you know, I've been working for a while.

I've been writing for a while, but he just, he said the one thing that I should always think of,

is which, remember that everyone is the star of their own movie.

And that even the bad guys, they've got a reason for doing what they're doing.

They didn't just wake up in the morning and decide to

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