This week on a sleep deprived episode 305 of The Anxious Truth, we're going to talk about the value

of learning how to do nothing. It's the act of doing not doing. My friend Joanna Hardis is here

to help us with that. So let's get into it right now. Hello everybody. Welcome back to The Anxious Truth. This is episode 305 of the podcast or the YouTube channel, depending on where you're consuming this content. We are recording in November of 2024 in case you're listening from the future.

Today's topic aided by my friend, OCD specialist,

Joanna, from Cleveland, Ohio, is the value of learning how to do nothing, or as it's sometimes

known, doing, not doing, and why we should probably invest time and effort and learning

how to do that. If you are new to this podcast

or this YouTube channel, this is the first day here, you kind of accidentally stumbled upon it,

maybe in a YouTube or a Google search. Welcome, I'm glad that you're here. I am Drew Linzalata,

creator and host of The Anxious Truth. I'm also a therapist still practicing under supervision

for the time being in New York, specializing in the treatment of

anxiety and anxiety disorders. I'm also a former sufferer of all the flavors of anxiety disorder

and depression and OCD for many years of my life on and off, but much better now for many years.

Thank you very much. I'm an author. I've written three books on this topic. I'm a podcaster,

clearly, psychoeducator, mental health advocate, social media guy,

all the things. But here on The Anxious Truth, we're talking about anxiety, anxiety disorders,

and strategies for learning about it, understanding it, and starting to work on overcoming these

problems. So welcome, if you are new. Of course, if you're a returning listener or viewer,

welcome back. I'm glad you're here. I hope you guys find today's episode helpful. What are we going to talk about?

We're going to talk about the value of learning how to do nothing. Some people call it doing not

doing. If you're familiar with Taoism or Buddhism, you may have heard doing not doing. I believe

that comes out of Taoism. What are we talking about when I

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