Hey there, welcome to episode 306 of The Anxious Truth.

This is the podcast where we cover all things anxiety, anxiety disorders, and anxiety recovery.

Now, today we do not have any music.

We don't have any fancy intro or outro, but we do have a conversation about rational,

emotive behavior therapy, R-E-B-T.

R-E-B-T, I kid you not, is the OG of modern cognitive behavioral therapies.

It was created and introduced to the world by Dr. Albert Ellis back in the 1950s and

1960s.

He really led the way in modern cognitive behavioral therapies, and REBT has been in widespread

use ever since.

It's an empirically supported therapy. There's a lot of data

and research behind it. And today we have a very special guest to join us to talk about R.EBT.

Her name is Dr. Debbie Jaffe Ellis, otherwise known as Dr. Debbie. And while she does have the same

last name and was in fact married to Dr. Ellis, she was his collaborator at the tail end of his career,

but her work stands on its own. She is more than just the wife of the late Dr. Ellis,

but she was his partner, his collaborator, and she is a bit of a legend in therapy and counseling

herself. So Dr. Debbie was kind enough to take some time to talk to us today about REBT.

We're going to talk about its origin stories, its nuances, its unique features, how it might

be applied in the context of treating anxiety disorders.

I had a great time talking to her.

She is a lovely individual, very friendly, very open, very kind, very willing to share and

educate.

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