Does the Church Need a Rebrand? A Conversation with Dr. Eric Mason

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🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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What do you think of when you hear the word ‘church’? There’s confusion and a lack of clarity about what it means to be a church, but today’s guest wants to re-present the fundamentals so that we’re more responsible with our witness. Dr. Eric Mason is full of wisdom and he’s got a new book out September 30 called Rebranding the Church: Restoring the Image of God's People in the World. Dr. Mason says we’ve over-corrected in a lot of ways as Christians, going from “holier than thou” to “holiness don’t mean nothing.” We aren’t committed to maturing in our faith. We don’t have a sober-minded view of our own sin, of other people, or of Christian leadership. We’re driven by humanistic individualism, thinking we can do this life apart from the community. So let’s talk about getting back to the church God intended for us to be a part of. Connect with Dr. Eric Mason: https://www.instagram.com/pastoremase/ | https://www.pastoremase.com/ Grab a copy of Rebranding the Church: Restoring the Image of God's People in the World: https://www.amazon.com/Rebranding-Church-Restoring-Image-People/dp/0593602110/ Scripture references: 1 Peter 4 Revelation 2 Ezra 7:10 1 Timothy 1:5 1 Corinthians 2:2 Acts 20:27 Subscribe to the Perrys' newsletter: https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s Join Preston's discipleship community for men: https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal: https://paypal.me/withtheperrys Shop BOLD Apparel: boldapparel.shop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What's good with y'all? How y'all feel? Fine. How you doing, Bette? I'm all right.
0:12.1	You sure you're all right? I'm positive. Okay. We got a special guest in the house past the Dr. Eric Mason, no strangers to With the Perry's podcast.
0:22.4	You've been on there more than anybody at this point.
0:25.3	Oh, no.
0:26.3	Only been on here once, right?
0:27.4	Yeah, yeah.
0:27.8	It's the third, fourth, five, six times?
0:32.0	No, it's not.
0:33.0	It's not.
0:33.6	When you count before we, when we did you on the computer,
0:38.9	when you count the seven-day on the computer, when you count the seven-day event conversation, when you count the last conversation about the church.
0:43.3	It is four times.
0:44.0	When you count this conversation, it's about four or five times.
0:47.6	What does that mean then?
0:48.9	We love you.
0:49.8	Oh, man.
0:50.3	Man, you got wisdom.
0:51.9	You do got a lot of wisdom, man.
0:53.9	That means we got, you get, I think there's a benefit to being able to have a conversation with somebody where you can have different conversations with the same person. It is. It says a lot about that person's depth. You do got a founder wisdom. You're very wise guy. Y'all are good interviewers, though, y'all. Oh, yay. Y'all be symphonic with it.
1:11.5	Sinfonic.
1:11.9	Man, see, that's another thing you do.
1:14.0	Yeah.
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