With The Perrys

If marriage feels difficult, it’s not because you and your spouse are incompatible. It’s because you’re married. On today’s episode, Jackie and Preston are joined by mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien for a conversation about fighting for intimacy.

Transcribed - Published: 7 April 2025

Confrontation is a necessary function of a healthy relationship and it can create more intimacy. But how do we honor God and one another as we move through conflict? The Perrys have some thoughts from what they’ve learned over the years.

Transcribed - Published: 3 March 2025

While the podcast is on a break until summer, we're revisiting some of the Perrys’ most popular episodes.Here's an episode from June 2023 with Jackie and Preston's friend Ezekiel Azonwu.

Transcribed - Published: 3 February 2025

While the podcast is on a break until summer, we're revisiting some of the Perrys’ most popular episodes.

Transcribed - Published: 13 January 2025

After a fruitful yet exhausting year, the Perrys talk about the future of the podcast and their public ministry. They discuss whether or not they did too much, what they’ve learned about rhythms of rest, how God has used success and scrutiny to make them more like Jesus, and the gifts and dangers of social media.

Transcribed - Published: 9 December 2024

Today’s podcast guest, Sarah Benibo, joins Jackie and Preston to discuss the church’s relationship with lament – or lack thereof – and the reality that we can still worship God through our expression of sorrow and grief.

Transcribed - Published: 18 November 2024

Ray Ortlund is back on the podcast to discuss the topics of pornography, human dignity, sexuality, and marriage. As a pastor, Ray has come to realize that porn is the wallpaper of our culture.

Transcribed - Published: 11 November 2024

The “unimpressive” life you live today is really important. Even the mundane matters. God is using it and will bless you and future generations through your faithfulness.

Transcribed - Published: 4 November 2024

Justin Giboney joins the Perrys for a conversation on politics. Justin is the co-founder of the AND Campaign, a Christian civic organization for raising civic literacy among Christians so that we can engage in a better way.

Transcribed - Published: 28 October 2024

It’s been a minute since the Perrys have done a Q&A episode, but we’ve got one for you this week.

Transcribed - Published: 21 October 2024

Megan Ashley joins the Perrys to talk about her upbringing, faith journey, and hardships of the past several years. As a mom to a child with autism, Megan believes the church should step in to support families, and she’s advocating for churches to become more conscious of special needs.

Transcribed - Published: 14 October 2024

Philip Anthony Mitchell is back for Part Two of his conversation with the Perrys, talking about problems with the American church.

Transcribed - Published: 7 October 2024

Philip Anthony Mitchell sits down with the Perrys for a conversation on the urban context and darkness of his childhood, how he was changed by prison, the idea of calling, and the deep reverence and affection he now has for the Lord.

Transcribed - Published: 23 September 2024

Many of us have experienced hurt within the church or have had seasons of disconnection from a local faith community. Even if we haven’t, we probably see areas where our current church context could be improved. So what does a healthy church look like and how can we be a part of its flourishing?

Transcribed - Published: 16 September 2024

You know the word ‘emotional’ – we’ve all got feelings – and you’ve heard the term ‘idolatry.’ But it’s rare that we hear the two words as a phrase together. Emotions are not wrong – having them is evidence that we’re created in the image of God. But if we’re not careful, emotions can dictate our world and realities instead of God’s truth.

Transcribed - Published: 9 September 2024

Young men today want to be poured into, and Priscilla Shirer’s new movie is all about the power of prayer and discipleship in a boy's life. In this episode, Priscilla talks with the Perrys about parenting boys and how God has taught her to surrender her comfort in the “rough and tumble” of them growing up to be men.

Transcribed - Published: 2 September 2024

We can’t grow in our relationship with God without questioning Him, but many of us run from hard questions or feel discouraged and angry when the answers we find are not emotionally satisfying to us.

Transcribed - Published: 26 August 2024

Have you ever thought you were a better Christian than other Christians? We can all be self-righteous at times, but it’s bad theology.

Transcribed - Published: 19 August 2024

How do you steward your influence? This is a valuable question for every Christian. If you’ve been called out of darkness into His marvelous light, that is your platform to display His goodness.

Transcribed - Published: 12 August 2024

Dr. Sarita Lyons has written a book to encourage Black women specifically – based on their unique lived experience – and she sits down with the Perrys to talk about it.

Transcribed - Published: 5 August 2024

What does it look like for husbands and wives to support each other without ego or insecurity getting in the way?

Transcribed - Published: 29 July 2024

What do you think about sex? It has serious physical, social, emotional, and spiritual implications. It’s the closest physical bond two human beings can have.

Transcribed - Published: 22 July 2024

Dating at any age is hard, and dating now looks different than it did “back then” (this is true no matter when your “then” might have been).

Transcribed - Published: 15 July 2024

Prayer will always be a struggle because it concerns our dependence. “Do I trust myself today, or do I trust God to meet my needs?”

Transcribed - Published: 8 July 2024

A few months back, Dr. Eric Mason joined Jackie and Preston to talk about church dynamics and denominations, and it got some pushback from members of the SDA (Seventh Day Adventism) community.

Transcribed - Published: 17 June 2024

Jackie and Preston sit down with Brenna Blain to discuss some hard things.

Transcribed - Published: 10 June 2024

Trauma can show up in all relationships, not just romantic ones. And “friendship trauma” may sound dramatic, but experiences with others can legitimately affect your view of yourself, even the concept of friendship in general.

Transcribed - Published: 3 June 2024

When a white man named Brian Dye started coming to Preston’s poetry events, Preston admits he didn’t trust him. But Brian had a burden to see young believers walk toward sanctification, and he felt called by God to help Preston to cultivate his influence.

Transcribed - Published: 27 May 2024

When it comes to women in ministry who know a thing or two about studying the Bible, Jackie and her two guests, Jasmine L. Holmes and Melissa Kruger, have a ton to offer.

Transcribed - Published: 20 May 2024

Can we be honest? This episode almost didn't happen because The Perrys found themselves in a funk when it was time to record. Jackie admits she’s recently felt as though she’s been holding back the hand of depression.

Transcribed - Published: 13 May 2024

Ezekiel & Kiyanna Azonwu have been married for 15+ years, and in this episode they talk with the Perrys about things like attraction, discerning who to pursue romantically, maintaining intimacy in marriage, and flourishing in Christian community.

Transcribed - Published: 6 May 2024

Pride is an illusion wrapped in a lie, and it's in each of us. It’s our desire for total independence from our Creator, and it makes us feel good because we feel secure and capable.

Transcribed - Published: 22 April 2024

Preston operates in a number of roles: husband, father, evangelist, apologist, poet... and now, he's added "author" to the list.

Transcribed - Published: 15 April 2024

In celebration of a decade of marriage, Jackie and Preston react to their wedding video and reminisce about everything from Jackie’s dress and “flower distributors” to whether or not Preston cried as she walked down the aisle and the reason they were late for their own reception.

Transcribed - Published: 8 April 2024

Transcribed - Published: 1 April 2024

The story of the woman at the well is a lesson from Jesus about how to do ministry.

Transcribed - Published: 25 March 2024

What's destructive, expensive, & detrimental to your soul? Porn.

Transcribed - Published: 18 March 2024

Dr. Eric Mason joins the Perrys for a conversation on cults and other cultural ideologies.

Transcribed - Published: 11 March 2024

Transcribed - Published: 4 March 2024

Before penning books, the Perrys penned poems. In this episode, Preston and Jackie give us a behind-the-scenes look inside a few of their favorite pieces.

Transcribed - Published: 13 November 2023

Today’s episode is a conversation between Jackie and Preston about the things that compete for our attention and take away from adequate time in God’s word.

Transcribed - Published: 6 November 2023

Preston Sprinkle doesn’t shy away from the tension of wrestling with what the Bible says about marriage and sexuality. He joins the Perrys on today’s episode to discuss some of his methods in approaching the topic of same-sex marriage.

Transcribed - Published: 9 October 2023

Why is it important we address sin when presenting the gospel? Because people need to know what stands in the way of their relationship with God… but how we communicate really matters.

Transcribed - Published: 2 October 2023

Join Jackie and Preston for Part 1 of a conversation on engaging those around us with the gospel, and being anchored in love as we do so.

Transcribed - Published: 25 September 2023

On today’s episode, Jackie and Preston are joined by mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien for a conversation about fighting for intimacy in marriage.

Transcribed - Published: 11 September 2023

In this episode, Jackie and Preston talk about what it truly means to cultivate holistic boldness as a Christ follower today.

Transcribed - Published: 4 September 2023

From being long distance to living in the same city and then taking a pivotal trip together to the Caribbean, the Perrys’ dating relationship had a bit of a rocky start.

Transcribed - Published: 28 August 2023

A conversation with Preston about his book-writing experience turns into a much bigger dialogue about the creative process.

Transcribed - Published: 21 August 2023

The Bible tells us we need other Christians and we’re missing something if we don’t gather together to hear God’s Word, but our relationship to church can still be complicated.

Transcribed - Published: 14 August 2023

Jackie teaches through Genesis 16 – the story of Hagar, Abram, and Sarai – reflecting on the unique questions that only a woman might think to ask of this text.

Transcribed - Published: 24 July 2023