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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Does God Determine some Christians to Reject Calvinism?

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Baptist, Atonement, Reformed, Bible, Religion & Spirituality, Calvinism, Biblical, Arminianism, Calvin, Christianity, Christian

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2020

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Dr Flowers plays a clip from a recent debate which reveals a fatal flaw within the Calvinistic logic: If God determines whatsoever comes to pass then that must necessarily mean God determined all non-Calvinists to reject Calvinism. How is this rational? And why make the attempt to convince the wills of non-Calvinists to accept Calvinism if ultimately it is God who will bring them into Calvinism if He really wants them to be a Calvinist?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Sootriology 101.

0:14.0

It helps if I turn on my camera.

0:16.0

And I am using some different equipment today.

0:19.0

So if sound is looping back through or something like that, let me know. I'm trying to mess with it a little bit today. And this is my second broadcast today. I had Eric Hernandez on earlier today and things went pretty well with the sound. So I'm hoping this comes through okay. And Eric actually reminded me, having him on reminded me of a question he asked in a recent debate that I had

0:38.5

with Joel Webbin there at Remnant Radio. And I wanted to play that question because it really does

0:43.4

bring up, I think, a really important point with regard to the claims of the Calvinistic system

0:50.6

and that of theistic determinism, sometimes called compatibleistic determinism,

0:55.8

the concept and idea that God does bring whatsoever comes to pass, he decrees whatsoever

1:01.0

comes to pass.

1:01.6

In other words, the reason, the cause of all things that are, and that everything that

1:05.6

exists, including your desire, choices, and actions, is the sovereign decree of God,

1:09.3

that he is the one who brings these things to pass.

1:12.2

The fallacy, I think, found in that claim can be demonstrated pretty well in this question that you're going to hear from Eric.

1:20.4

And again, those who are tuned in on the side chat, if you would let me know soundwise, if this is coming through okay, this can really, really help me. I appreciate it.

1:29.0

Let's listen to Eric's question.

1:31.8

That's a preliminary question first. You would agree that latent regenerate? He's a brother in

1:36.2

Christ? Yeah. Okay. And I safely assume so. Okay. So that being said, given that

1:42.7

you need to work, that the natural man can't understand the things of the spirit

1:47.0

and you need to be regenerated in order to have faith so there's a work of God that's needed for these things

1:51.7

but my question is is that if latent is regenerate and yet still does not understand the things of the spirit as you do

1:58.5

assuming if your position is true and that he does not have the faith, the trust, the confidence, pistis in the attributes of God as you do, then how would you explain this? Was he like spiritually dropped on his head as a baby, or is there a spiritual defect in his regeneration? And whatever the answer is is who are we to say why God has

2:18.9

regenerated latent in the spiritually defective way so first question there's a

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