meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Proverbs 16:33 De-Calvinized: Casting Lots & Calvinism

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Baptist, Atonement, Reformed, Bible, Religion & Spirituality, Calvinism, Biblical, Arminianism, Calvin, Christianity, Christian

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2020

⏱️ 21 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Dr Flowers contends with a message from John Piper which suggests that Proverbs 16:33 [“The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD”] demonstrates that theistic determinism (ie Calvinism) must be true. Leighton shows why it is just the opposite.

To view, the article go here: https://soteriology101.com/2016/04/24...

To SUPPORT this broadcast please click here: https://soteriology101.com/support/

DOWNLOAD OUR APP:

LINK FOR ANDROIDS: https://play.google.com/store/apps/de... LINK FOR APPLE: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/soterio...

Go to www.ridgemax.co for all your software developing needs! Show them some love for their support of Soteriology101!!!

To ORDER Dr Flowers Curriculum “Tiptoeing Through Tulip” please click here: https://soteriology101.com/shop/

To listen to the audio-only be sure to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or one of the other podcast players found here: https://soteriology101.com/home/

For more about Traditionalism (or Provisionism) please visit www.soteriology101.com Dr Flowers’ book, “The Potter’s Promise” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Potters-Promis...

Dr Flowers’ book, “God’s Provision for All” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Provision...

To engage with other believers cordially join our Facebook group: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1806702...

For updates and news follow us at www.facebook/Soteriology101 Or @soteriology101 on Twitter

Please SHARE on Facebook and Twitter and help spread the word!

To learn more about other ministries and teachings from Dr Flowers go here: https://soteriology101.com/2017/09/22...

To become a Patreon supporter or make a one-time donation: https://soteriology101.com/support/

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Sochiology 101.

0:14.0

I have been asked many times to produce more short videos in responses to specific questions and proof text. And so that's what

0:22.8

I'm trying to do in some of these videos that have been coming out more recently that are under

0:26.5

the 20-minute mark for those who have specific questions. One question often comes up is with

0:32.2

regard to Proverbs 1633, which says, the lot is cast into the lap, but every decision is from the Lord.

0:40.1

Now, some Calvinist have used this as a proof text for Calvinism.

0:44.0

For example, John Piper, a well-known Calvinist in our world today, wrote this, or actually said

0:49.6

this, quote, he was asked this question first. Let me present the question first.

0:55.0

He was asked, has God predetermined every tiny detail in the universe,

0:58.4

such as dust particles and the error, including our besetting sins?

1:02.5

And John Piper's answer was this, yes.

1:05.8

Now, the reason I believe that is because the Bible says the dice is thrown in the lap and every decision is from

1:12.2

the Lord in quote now let me stop right there and just remind you he's being asked about

1:17.2

theistic determinism which is a claim of the Calvinistic worldview in other words

1:21.9

Calvinism qua Calvinism true Calvinist are theistic determinists including John

1:26.8

Piper John Calvin John MacArthur R.C. Sproul the leading Calvinist, are theistic determinists, including John Piper, John Calvin, John

1:28.5

MacArthur, Arscius Sprole, the leading Calvinist are theistic determinist, meaning they believe

1:33.6

God has determined whatsoever comes to pass. All things are in accordance with what he

1:38.3

sovereignly and unchangeably decreed prior to creation. And so he's using Proverbs 1633 as a proof text to demonstrate

1:46.6

theistic determinism. So he goes on to say this. And why would he choose the dice that is

1:52.9

cast into the lap? Because he is trying to think of the most random thing he can think of. And he

1:58.8

says that, so randomness is not random to God. God is not the least

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Leighton Flowers, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Leighton Flowers and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.