EO Fire 1267.

Knowing what to say no to, so that you can truly say yes to the stuff that really matters to you.

Hey Fire Nation and welcome to EO Fire, where I chat with inspiring entrepreneurs seven days a week.

If you're ready to set and accomplish your number one goal in 100 days,

text journal to 3-3-4-4 and ignite.

Entrepreneurs near and far J L D here and I am fired up to bring you our featured guest today.

Michael, Bungay, Stania, Michael, are you prepared to ignite?

I am so so prepared.

Bring it on.

That's what I say.

Michael is founder and senior partner at Box of Crayons, a company that helps people in

organizations do less good work and more great work. He's the author of the new book, The Coaching

Habit. Say less, ask more and change the way you lead forever.

Michael, take a minute. Fill in some gaps from that intro and give us a little glimpse at your

personal life. Sure. So if people are wondering what my vaguely exotic accent is, I am a misplace or

displaced Australian. So I was Australian. I was carrying on there and then I had the good luck to

win a Rhodes scholarship that whisked me away to England to study at Oxford for a while and two

good things happened there. The first is I met my future wife there. So that kind of changed

everything. The second is it stopped me becoming a lawyer because I had done a law degree in Australia

and it had ended badly. I actually ended my law degree being sued for defamation by one of my

law lecturers, which is an all-man-ass start to a law career. But it kind of pulled me out of there

and when I finally, finally staggered out of university, still not really knowing what I wanted

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