4.2 • 970 Ratings
🗓️ 14 December 2022
⏱️ 65 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Sean and Varn take a brief intermission from their long-running debt crisis series to check in on the state of the American Left. (Tl;dr it's not looking good.)
Where have the forces unleashed by the Bernie wave gone? Why has the social-democratic left become merely an adjunct to the Democratic Party? How come revolutionary organizations have either liquidated themselves into the DSA or remained marginal micro-sects? In what ways might these two coeval paths be overcome and what part might all of us play in this overcoming?
This is an extended preview of [the three-hour long conversation]( the three-hour long conversation) which ends on a hopeful note and a call to action. If you're interested in this content, become a patron today at www.patreon.com/theantifada
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Welcome to diving into the wreckage 6, the debt crisis, |
| 0:14.5 | colon, not the debt crisis, comma, sometimes the light |
| 0:20.4 | at the end of the tunnel. We decided for this particular episode that 6.4 was not going to be the continuation of the debt crisis. We're going to take a little break. We're going to step back for a second. Look at the current events. Look at the current stay of the left. Look at things that have been happening in what's been three months since we started the debt series. We're taking like a little intermission and maybe probably talking about some things of people are feeling on their own. Maybe people things people don't want to accept |
| 0:55.3 | that are the reality more and more so these days we're gonna get into it today |
| 0:59.2 | it's gonna be good even if it feels bad, it will be good. |
| 1:12.0 | Sometimes it's important to take stock about how we got here and I was reading, you know, a thousand different things lately. people were talking about oh in this age of a woke capital |
| 1:19.4 | Netflix is selling us anti capitalist art and what does that tell you about how safe it's making it and I was just going like |
| 1:28.7 | You dumb motherfucker they've been doing that since the 60s. |
| 1:33.0 | Like... |
| 1:34.0 | We really need to change our conception of what anti-capitalist art even means. |
| 1:40.0 | I mean critiquing the rich, you know know like there's been a lot of movies |
| 1:44.8 | Rex and I were just talking about this on her podcast you know every great movie |
| 1:48.5 | that's come out recently whether it's triangle of sadness or whether it's the menu it's like it's implicit that the |
| 1:55.0 | the rich must be killed that the rich must die that they are too |
| 1:59.4 | snobbish and too shitty to go on living on this in the same universe as us. I mean that in |
| 2:05.8 | and of itself is not anti-capitalist per se it's it's sort of like there's a |
| 2:10.4 | class critique there right but for something to actually rise to like past being critical of |
| 2:16.0 | the particular distribution of wealth that exists within a society or the |
| 2:20.1 | different habitats of various different actors within, it would actually have to have a message that included |
| 2:26.4 | some way out, some way forward, some sort of organizational principle that could get you past class society. |
| 2:32.3 | Otherwise it's just like realist, capitalist, realist art in an age of like extreme inequality. |
| 2:38.0 | In a moment of time where everybody feels like something needs to give, something needs to change, but things aren't changing at all or if they are very very slowly. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Sean KB and AP Andy, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Sean KB and AP Andy and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.