when the plane is crashing and there's nothing else for you to do, you can do two things.

You can hear your brain saying, you need to get out.

You need to get out.

It's time to get out.

You have to find a way.

You can panic or you can surrender and say there's nothing else for me to do and you can start breathing.

And that's a very harsh example.

But we are in a state where we have to start sitting down and breathing.

The solutions are not going to come in the head.

They're going to come through our heart and through our intuition.

Hello, hello, I'm Jocelyn K. Gly, and this is Hurry Slowly, a podcast about culture,

consciousness, and healing. And today we're going deep into that healing territory as I am joined by therapist and all around wise human Dina Shapiro for a conversation about how transformation really happens.

We talk about how to shift limiting beliefs and how we get our bodies and our brains on board

with manifesting a new reality. We dig into the difference between what happens when you do talk

therapy versus what happens when you work with plant medicine in an intentional way. And we talk about how to think about healing itself,

that it's really time for our focus to shift beyond simply healing the individual

to healing community and healing the earth,

and really taking responsibility for your footprint as a human in the world.

But before I introduce my guest, I just want to take a moment here for a quick aside

to let you know that I am launching a brand new course in the near future.

It's going to open at the beginning of next year, 2024.

And it's called Finding Your Voice, a sacred practice space for honoring self-expression.

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