These businesses who sold themselves as saviors of the world, as the good form of capitalism,

are actually having a lot of downsides that we actually have problems with

and that we want to see regulated and addressed.

And as a result of that, you know, that is exactly what governments have started to do.

Music Hello and welcome to Tech On Save Us made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marks.

And before we get into this week's episode, just a reminder that this month is the

fifth birthday of Tech Won't Save Us. And as a result, we are doing a member drive to ask you to

support the work that goes into making the show every single week so we can keep having these

critical, in-depth conversations on important issues that have to do with the tech industry,

the technologies we use every day, and how that shapes the world around us. This month, we have

set two goals. They get 100 new supporters at $5 a month or above over on patreon.com slash

tech won't save us. And if we hit that, I will be making a new series on defense tech and this

growing relationship between the Pentagon and the tech industry and how they are trying to

remake military procurement to work for these companies that we typically associate with Silicon

Valley and the internet. And then I said a second goal, you know, an even bigger goal, to get to

150 new supporters. And if we get there, then I will make a zine later this year.

The first one for tech won't save us to try to promote these ideas in a very different format,

but one that I think will be actually quite appealing to people.

So I'm really excited to potentially try that if we can hit that goal.

Right now, we're just over halfway to the first goal of

100 new supporters. So if you want to ensure I can make that defense tech series and a zine later this

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