What I actually find interesting and surprising is that in Europe, there is less talk about really going against this authoritarian turn, which we're observing in the US.

But it's more about how do we build counterpower.

And this is then framed in military and often nationalist terms.

Thank you. in military and of nationalist terms. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, made in partnership with The Nation magazine.

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