The following talk was given at the Insight Meditation Center in Redwood City, California.

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Okay. Okay, so yeah, good to, good to say with you.

A little bit of a somber meditation, but my heart is good.

So a question that was submitted some weeks ago says,

it's in Goenka.

Goenka says attachment and suffering are always found together.

He says we're addicted to the condition of craving, the object is secondary.

Craving becomes a habit we cannot break.

It is interesting to me because when I look at the object of craving, then it fades a kind of letting go.

Could you talk about the condition of craving and how to feel that seems it would be going more to the heart of the matter.

So I thought to let that be a kind of I'll kind of try to answer but let that be the launching point.

So the Buddha said to study the

darma is to study causality, cause and effect, cause and effect, causes and

conditions, supporting conditions.

This is the realm, science where in an experiment you sort of control everything to isolate the cause and then see what the effects are.

And generally in Buddhist circles the interest is in one particular effect,

namely suffering.

And suffering is the effect of causes, the tradition highlights, craving and clinging attachment.

Clinging is the kind of elaboration and strategizing sponsored by the craving.

So, but suffering is also, is not merely an effect, it's a cause, right? It can be the cause of

tremendous goodness or

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