Destigmatizing Psychedelics With Beau Kilmer

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.8 • 8.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Dave and Chris consider things that have been unfairly demonized, from ingredients to medicinal drugs like cannabis. They are then joined by Beau Kilmer, the codirector of the RAND Drug Policy Research Center, who discusses the possible future of psychedelics in the United States. They finish with an Ask Dave. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Beau Kilmer Video/Audio Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Majordomo Media Producers: Kelsey Rearden and David Meyer Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, hello. Back for another podcast. We have a guest in a Bo Kilmer.
0:07.1	Bo Kilmer. Who is he?
0:09.8	He's a MPP PhD. He's an expert on the legalization. He's a senior policy researcher at the Rand Corporation, an expert sort of in the legalization of psychedelics, psilocybin.
0:22.8	We're going to talk to him about shrooms in the new world.
0:26.5	Well, if you stay tuned, you might learn a little bit about whatever Chris is talking about.
0:34.7	And I might tell you a little story about how maybe like 12, 13 years ago,
0:39.6	we were very close to making medicinal marijuana at a national level.
0:44.2	Oh, I'll stay tuned for that.
0:45.8	So you might ask yourself, what are psychedelics, psilocybin, and a food podcast.
0:53.3	Got to do with anything.
0:54.3	Well, you'll find out. You'll find out.
0:56.6	All right, stay tuned.
0:58.7	So, you want to be a marketer.
1:01.4	It's easy.
1:02.7	You just have to score a ton of leads
1:04.2	and figure out a way to turn them all into customers.
1:06.6	Plus manage a dozen channels, write a million blogs,
1:08.8	and launch 100 campaigns all at once.
1:11.1	When that's done, simply make your socials go viral and bring in record profits.
1:15.3	No sweat.
1:16.9	Okay, fine.
1:17.7	It's a lot of sweat.
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