This is design matters with Debbie Melman.

For 16 years, Debbie has been talking with creative people about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, which was tape for Adobe Max, Jim O'Brien talks about the risks she took early in her career.

I think I was too young and free and I didn't fully know the responsibilities of the world to be scared yet.

Here's Debbie, first with a couple of messages.

Adobe Max 2020, the largest global creativity conference is over, but you can still watch more than 350 sessions on demand. From an inspiring look at creating a joyful life through illustration to a deep dive into

Photoshop to quick tips for creating engaging social media videos. There's something

for every creative regardless of your skill level or area of interest.

Check out all the great content online at Adobe.com. As a Creator, it can feel like you're making stuff for practically everyone but yourself.

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can directly support it with paid subscriptions. No advertisers, no algorithms,

no mainstream gatekeepers holding their no algorithms,

mainstream gatekeepers holding their paycheck,

just steady, reliable income and the freedom to make what you love.

Start creating on their own terms.

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dot com. E-O-N-D-K-O-N-D-K-G-O-N-G-O-B-E-O-N-T-E-O-N-C-E-O-N-C-E-O-N-T-E-O-N-T-C-E-O-N-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-O-C-C-C-O-G Q's and her B's and L's and Z's. I think she has a very special relationship with the letter

G as well. In fact, she knows the alphabet about as intimately as anyone on the planet because

she not only designs them, she draws them, she paints them, and she clearly loves them for their aesthetic

and artistic potential.

Jemma O'Brien is a designer, an illustrator, a letterer, and typographer based in Australia.

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