Hello there, I'm Chuck Todd, and this is the Chuck Todd cast.

It's the 2012 presidential election that phrase, Odd Topsy, has referred specifically to

a document created by Republicans to understand why they lost that election to Barack Obama.

They cited poor messaging and a lack of minority representation, especially among Latino

and women.

Well, Democrats now have their own Odd Topsy report, even though they won the White House

in 2020, many progressive sea alarm bells and the winds specifically around messaging

and voter outreach, particularly when you look at the results on the House level.

In May, three Democratic online groups released a 73-page post-election analysis that looked

at how Republican attacks worked, failures among communities of color, and their own expectations

of success.

Well, joining me today is Lynne Erickson.

She's a senior vice president of third-way, a center-left think tank that helped commission

this report.

Lynne, welcome to the Todd cast.

Thanks for having me.

So let me start just with what I thought was interesting about this Odd Topsy was that

third-way is known as sort of being, I might argue, representative of the pragmatic wing

of the Democratic Party, the sort of the center, that sort of, I would argue, sort of the

middle of the Democratic coalition.

But this was not just that perspective represented in this groups.

You had groups all across the Democratic spectrum involved in the Odd Topsy, correct?

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