Democracy’s Tipping Point (with Francis Fukuyama)

Stay Tuned with Preet

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Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.8 • 32.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Does human nature push us towards democracy or autocracy? Renowned political scientist Francis Fukuyama, author of The End of History and The Last Man, joins Preet to discuss attacks on the civil service, the crisis of trust in America, and where history is now headed. Then, Preet answers questions about the iconic “Princess Bride,” his transition from the U.S. Attorneys Office to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and whether we’re in the midst of a constitutional crisis. You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on Threads, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at [email protected], or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.
0:05.9	I'm Preet Bharara.
0:08.2	You know, I think that's really the kind of system that we're heading back to,
0:11.9	where you reward a political supporter, not chosen on the basis of competence,
0:17.6	but chosen on the basis of loyalty.
0:25.4	Yeah. of competence but chosen on the basis of loyalty. That's Francis Fukuyama.
0:27.5	He's a world-renowned political scientist and philosopher,
0:30.5	best known for his 1992 book, The End of History and the Last Man.
0:35.5	Since then, he's written about everything from conservatism, to biotechnology,
0:40.0	to international conflict, to political order, identity, and liberalism. You name it. He's written about it.
0:46.4	The political moment we're in keeps getting more complicated, overwhelming, and at times,
0:50.9	downright alarming. Fukuyama joins me to talk about Trump's attacks on the Civil Service,
0:55.8	the crisis of trust in America,
0:57.7	and whether human nature leans more towards democracy or autocracy.
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