Hey folks, Preet here. Unless you've been living in a cave on Mars, you've been seeing and reading

the news coming out of the Department of Justice and the Southern District of New York.

The controversy relates to the case against the sitting New York City Mayor, Eric Adams.

I've naturally been inundated with questions. After all, I once led that office. Not only that,

but I hired Damien Williams, the U.S. attorney who brought the case. I also hired Emil Bovet,

the Department of Justice official, who directed SdN.Y to drop the case. And I hired Danielle Sassoon

and Hagen Scotton, who both chose to resign rather than comply with that

direction. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to speak about the case because partners from my law firm

have represented the mayor in this matter. So I can't get into it. But this is arguably one of the

most important legal stories in the country right now.

So guest hosting for me this week is my friend and colleague, Ellie Honig.

Ellie and Joyce will give you their unvarnished views of what's going on and going down in the Southern District of New York.

So now I turn it over to them.

Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider

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The other thing that's so important to understand, and this I think will get us into the larger

institutional questions, is Emil Bovet, in his letters, instructing the SD&Y to dump this

case, says explicitly in his first letter,

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