Deconstructing the "Ideal" Black Female Ft Mandy Harris Williams
Naked Beauty
The Naked Beauty Podcast
4.7 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 9 September 2019
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
Harlem-born, LA-based artist Mandy Harris Williams is thinking about beauty on a *much deeper* level. This was the intellectual beauty I conversation I've been chasing all 2019. Mandy’s ultimate aesthetic: summering on Martha’s Vineyard with a strong no-makeup skin flex. Listen to hear Mandy & I discuss the mythology behind the ‘ideal’ black woman, being ‘uglied’, fitting into cultural norms, high heels as a manifestation of the patriarchy and how we feel about white women wearing braids. We also get into:
- How beauty privilege manifests itself
- Hyper-pigmentation & acne scarring
- Tattoos & her art career
- Hair identity politics
- How institutions like Jack & Jill, Trinity & Harvard can shape your self-perception
& so much more. This is one of my favorite episodes, please enjoy! And if you love it please take the time to give the show a rating & review on the Apple Podcast app. Tag me @NakedBeautyPlanet with a screenshot as you’re listening to support.
Products Mentioned:
Stridex Daily Pads with Aloe Vera
AMBI Even & Clear Daily Moisturizer, SPF 30
Clinique Pore Mattifying Lotion
Honey Dew Me up serum from NYX
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| 0:00.0 | Could you put that thing on me? |
| 0:03.7 | So I can't put on you and you can speak on me. |
| 0:07.7 | Hello, it's Brooke Devard and you're listening |
| 0:10.1 | to the Naked Beauty podcast. Finally I get Mandy Harris Williams on |
| 0:18.8 | naked beauty. This has been a quest for me. This has been an absolute quest, but this is the |
| 0:26.2 | intellectual beauty conversation that I have been waiting for. Mandy, she goes by |
| 0:31.6 | ideal black female on Instagram, and she's the force behind the hashtag brown up your |
| 0:36.5 | feed if you've seen it, and she's just incredible. |
| 0:39.3 | She's an artist, she's an educator, she is a very, very deep thinker thinker and one thing that I have learned from |
| 0:45.6 | this podcast and actually I've known my whole life but doing this podcast has really |
| 0:49.1 | taught me this talking about race is very controversial. |
| 0:52.8 | I've only had one one-star review |
| 0:55.8 | and it was because someone was unhappy |
| 0:57.8 | with how the topic of race was handled |
| 0:59.7 | with a mixed-race guest. |
| 1:01.0 | I'm sensitive to all feedback, and I don't disqualify feedback |
| 1:04.1 | just because it's negative but I do know that even from comments on social that race is |
| 1:08.7 | a very like hot button issue but I've also really decided that I am not going to shy away from these conversations |
| 1:15.9 | because they're important. |
| 1:17.9 | And I love the way that Mandy thinks, and I think she's one of the most interesting thinkers, thought leaders just talking right now. |
| 1:26.5 | So I was honored honestly to have her on the show. |
| 1:29.7 | Mandy's just like fun and funny and a delight, so I know you guys are all going to love the |
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