Welcome to the podcast Think Vivically, conversations on faith and culture.

I'm your host Sean McDowell, professor of Christian Apologetics at tablet school theology

Biola University.

Today we bring to you a bonus episode on the question of the worldview behind transgenderism.

Recently I had a chance to speak at the Youth Pastors Summit,

which is a conference for about 4 to 500 youth pastors,

hosted at Saddleback Church, and I was asked to speak about the

topic of transgenderism which is clearly a sensitive topic we have to approach

with compassion but also with biblical clarity. For the first 20 minutes or so I kind of compare

and contrast the larger transgender worldview with the Christian worldview, represented as fairly and accurately as I can.

And then I bring on my friend Caleb Coltonback, an author, former pastor who you might

recognize we've had him as a guest a couple times on this podcast in the past to really talk about some of the practical questions that come up when we approach this topic such as should we use personal gender pronouns, preferred gender pronouns.

I think you'll enjoy this, both the larger perspective of the worldview and also Caleb's

insight about how practically we can love transgender people.

Enjoy this bonus episode.

Well, I want to read a passage.

I know you're familiar with, but I think we'll frame our time this morning well

2nd Corinthians chapter 10 verses 3 through 5 Paul says for though we walk in the flesh we are not waging war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare

are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments,

arguments, and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God

and take every thought captive to obey Christ.

Now sometimes people say you shouldn't use warfare metaphors

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