This is exactly right.

Two rich young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over,

but one of them will end up dead and the other tried for murder three times.

It starts with a dream, a nature reserve and a spectacular new home.

But little by little, they lose it. They actually lose it.

They sort of like nuts.

Until one night, everything spins out of control.

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I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator who's worked some of America's

most complicated cases and solve them. Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most

compelling true crimes. And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights

to old mysteries. Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases

through a 21st century lens. Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones. Hey, Kate, how are you?

I'm doing well. Have you been thinking about this case, Paul?

I've been thinking about it all week.

What's going on?

What's going on? I was trying to not snicker every time you said, he, he, he, he, he when we were talking about the offender.

And I said, I wonder if he's going to get mad at me,

which is why I put the reveal at the very end, because then you wouldn't have time to be mad at me when I said, oh, it's a woman. I am so used to you just leaving me hang in and bamboozling me and all of that. So it's all good. I know. It's my job. I know. I've been called a lot of things. I'm not sure a bamboozler is something I've ever been called, but I appreciate it. Well, let's get into this because I just, there's a lot of background. So the first half of this was very forensic-y. You know, talk about wounds and weapons and who the potential offender is. Now we know who the offender is. And now you're

going to have to kind of get into the criminal profiling part of this or the offender profiling,

because this is not an open-in-check case, as you can tell a woman who is being accused of

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