Hey everybody. Welcome to Pillars. Thanks for tuning in to another episode. Of course, I'm Dylan Bowman.

And this week, I'm joined by my friend, the ultra-sensation that is David Laney.

David, of course, is now a seasoned veteran of the circuit. But as you'll hear, I was lucky to have a front row seat to his initial introduction to the amazing, wonderful,

life-changing sport of long-distance trail running way back in 2013 when he and I and some other

characters took a trip down to the Grand Canyon.

It was a memorable trip for me.

He and I have been buddies ever since, and I have always

been a big fan of his, so this was an absolute pleasure to record. David recently made

big news, which is one of the reasons why we decided to record together now, and that news was

his departure from longtime sponsor Nike to join together now. And that news was his departure from longtime sponsor Nike

to join Upstart Swedish brand craft sportswear. They've been big in cycling and ski, but

they seem to be making a big push into the world of running. So we talk a lot about that move,

what went into this decision. But we also talk about some of the world of running. So we talk a lot about that move, what went into this decision.

But we also talk about some of the highs and lows in David's career and what he has learned

along the way. David is truly one of the good guys on the circuit. There's a lot of wisdom

in this episode. I hope you guys enjoy it.

David Laney, how are you, my friend? Good to see you. I'm doing. I'm doing good. How are you

doing? Good, man. Good. It's a snowy winter's day here in Portland. You can see my,

both of us where we're all, we're all bundled up with his down, uh, down jackets on,

like we're preparing for Everest or something like that. I think, uh, we're getting soft.

It's freezing out there. Well, I just got out of my ice bat. It was, it was 33 degrees.

So, dude, that's, that's, that's commitment. Do you have the sauna going to i wish i'm i was

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