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I'm here at Keto Salt Lake for a conference which just started today.

And I caught up again with Dave Feldman, who just gave a fascinating talk, again on LDL,

but with some very new data. So great to see again, Dave.

Yeah, likewise, Ivor. Thanks for having me.

Not at all. Always a pleasure.

Now, you had new data today because I know that we've always wondered about LDL being a problematic compound in the body.

And it seems there's been a lot of data over the last five or six years where when LDL is high,

but other things like HDL are high and triglycerides are low,

most of the data suggests there's no problem with LDL being high.

But today was different because you pulled databases of 50,000 people and you did a bit of analysis.

And the results were quite stunning.

So maybe if you start going through some of those.

Yeah, well of course, as you know, this has been a bit of a long history.

I've not been in the space quite as long as you have, but in the time that I have, I've been

interested in how these markers play out, particularly as you were kind of mentioning outside of LDL,

HDL cholesterol, and triglycerides. And it's always been a bit frustrating because, as you know,

all we pretty much can do is trade studies between each other. If we ourselves are not,

you know, researchers with that data on hand, it's hard for us to look through raw data, but we're engineers, right?

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