What up, guys, welcome to the podcast. Today, we've got Chris O'Dell on the podcast. He is the founder of Datsusara, which is a company that makes a number of different products, famously for bags and Jitsu related products. But basically, it's hemp. Himp is like the main thing they make, but using all natural fabrics, hemp and other things like cotton and everything else to make their products.

We get into this a little bit and the idea of like fibers and natural fibers and how,

you know, we'll go through great lengths to not get exposed to microplastics or whatever

or aluminum is in our deodorant or fluoride in our toothpaste but then you drown yourself

in you know plastic related materials in your clothing sometimes you don't even realize it right

um so but we get into that and we just kind of ramble all over the place because he's a business

owner so we talk about that stuff he's a jitzu practitioner so we talk about that stuff he's

like probably one of the world's longest running blue belts out there.

Who's still training.

But again, it's a fun podcast and, you know, some cool information there.

And then obviously we get into some rants because he is a tangential ranter like myself.

And so hopefully you guys enjoy the conversation, get some ideas from it.

And that's that. So big thanks to our sponsors for helping make the podcast happen.

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I didn't even think about it until afterwards. And I said, oh, that stuff's actually working. I wasn't even expecting it to do anything. And so I've been a fan of it since. And again, I use it. I like it. I think it's useful for me. CBD sort of inhabits a recovery element space. If you want to think of it that, you know, as I get, like I was talking to a young guy. This young guy was at the gym last night because I had to get my lifting late because Luca was, he was in rare form when he got home yesterday and Jess was exhausted. And so I was like, why don't you go take a nap. I'm going to take him outside and then, you know, whatever, we'll get to keep the house quiet, let you get a nap in.

And so I took him outside to play while she was napping. And so I didn't get my lifting time in. So I got my lifting time after class last night because I was teaching, I wasn't training. And when I was lifting, this young guy was still there hanging out. He said, man, he's like, do you're big.

He's like, are you all natural?

He's like, no, sir.

I was like, I'm. And he said, man, he's like, do, you're big. He's like, are you all natural?

He's like, no, sir.

I was like, I'm on the TRT man.

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