Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Muse, the brain sensing headband that helps you meditate and

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Muse co-founder, Ariel Garten. Before we get started, a reminder to check out our free meditations

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We're thinking of all of you and wishing you the very best.

Now on to today's episode with REO.

Today, I have the most amazing guest for you. He is a man that really shows us the possibility of how two disparate sides can come together.

His name is Daryl Davis, and he's a black man who has convinced over 200 Ku Klux Klan members to give up their robes by boldly and bravely walking in, deep into their lives, deep into the heart of the Ku Klux Klan, becoming friends with them and showing them his sheer humanity.

Today we're going to hear Daryl's story and learn how it is that he, through his empathy, compassion, insight, and bravery has been able to really embrace a methodology that allows

people from opposite sides to come together, learn from one other, become friends, heal, and grow.

Welcome, Daryl. Thank you,

Ariel's a little pleasure to be here with you. Thank you for having me. It is such a pleasure.

You're such an extraordinary human being. Sorry to embarrass you. I am so excited to be able to share your story and your insights today. Oh, it's my pleasure, and I hope your listeners will enjoy it.

Thank you. Why don't you begin by telling us the backstory to how and why you were able to

penetrate the clan? Okay. I'm age 62 currently, and as a child, my parents were in the U.S. Foreign

Service, so I spent a lot of my formative years, starting at the age of three,

and on through elementary school, traveling abroad, living in various foreign countries. You go to a

country for two years, then you come back home here to the States, and then you're reassigned to

another country. So back and forth, back and forth during my formative years. While overseas, my classes in elementary school and things like that were filled with kids from all over the world.

Anybody who had an embassy in those countries, all of their children went to the same school.

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