Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Meditation Studio, the 5-star app, and Muse, the brain-sensing headband that helps you meditate.

I'm Patricia Carpeth.

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Today's guest is one of my favorites,

ABC News Journalist and author of 10% Happier and Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics, Dan Harris.

He's got a great and very funny way of turning ancient wisdom into useful everyday tools for staying sane.

Today we talk about election sanity or lack thereof, and he shares some great, trainable,

mental skills and practices that can give us a bit of a boost right now.

I, for one, really need it.

My favorite new phrase is hugging the dragon.

You'll know why when he describes it later in the show.

Now, here's Dan.

Dan, it's so great to have you back on Entangled today.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah.

In preparing for this interview, I was looking back at an interview you did,

let's see, with Sharon, Salzberg, Joanna, Hardy, and David Gellis from

the New York Times. It was in 2016. And it was so interesting because you guys were talking

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