Danger and Opportunity?
Moral Maze
BBC
4.4 • 623 Ratings
🗓️ 20 March 2020
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
The coronavirus pandemic has given the world a smack in the face. Sporting events have been cancelled, national borders have closed, jobs and livelihoods hang in the balance, the over-seventies will soon be asked to self-isolate and families are having difficult conversations about whether grandparents can be allowed to see their grandchildren. It’s life, but not as we know it. A cynical politician once said that you should never let a serious crisis go to waste, and pundits are already suggesting that we now have an opportunity to re-think society. After all, in Chinese, the word for crisis is often interpreted as signifying both "danger" and "opportunity". Is it time to make changes that would not have been feasible without an existential threat hanging over us? Could we, for example, strengthen global partnerships, accelerate the shift to sustainable energy, think about a universal basic income or forge a new sense of community? Such ‘politicisation’ of the problem is appalling to those who just want to get through this ordeal and return to normal; they say it’s much too soon to conclude that free market liberal democracy has failed the stress-test. They are sure that, if we do the right things to protect the most vulnerable, it will soon be business as usual. Yet history shows that a major crisis can be a catalyst for crucial changes. Talk of re-purposing hotels as make-shift hospitals and manufacturing plants to make ventilators, invites comparisons with the Second World War, which gave us the welfare state as we know it today. We won’t get through the corona crisis without ceding a lot of our individual autonomy to the state, but is that an opportunity for greater collectivism in the future - or a danger to liberty? With Rachel Cunliffe, Laura Perrins, Rabbi Lord Sacks and Dr Jamie Whyte.
Producer: Dan Tierney.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to a program from BBC Radio 4. |
| 0:03.7 | Good evening. Difficult to see a silver lining in the coronavirus cloud, with many of us banged up at home, |
| 0:10.2 | writing our wills according to the Law Society, whose members are struggling to cope with the surge in demand. |
| 0:16.0 | Life's shutting down all around us. Rationings returned. |
| 0:19.3 | Toilet rolls, I can understand, but garlic. |
| 0:22.1 | It's a virus, for goodness sake, not the evil eye. |
| 0:25.2 | 20,000 dead would be a good result, apparently, which sounds grim, but 650,000 a year of us |
| 0:32.4 | snuff it anyway. The papers, inevitably, are talking of the blitz spirit. |
| 0:37.5 | Stifling for a moment the negative thought that the Luftwaffe didn't close the pubs. |
| 0:41.4 | There may be something in this. |
| 0:43.5 | Communitarianism at home, courtesy in the queues, looking out for lonely oldies, |
| 0:47.6 | an 84-point banner across the Daily Telegraph front page shouting, |
| 0:51.3 | You are not alone. |
| 0:53.0 | And collectivism is the new politics, an almost wartime |
| 0:56.6 | mobilisation of the state and the economy to cope with the virus. Temporary, we are assured, |
| 1:01.9 | but there are those not just guardian colonists and climate change campaigners who see an |
| 1:06.7 | opportunity in this crisis, a chance to rethink society, a world where we care more for each |
| 1:11.7 | other and for the planet. We're ceding a lot of our personal autonomy to the state. A good thing, |
| 1:17.8 | it's taken mortal danger to bring about, or a threat to liberty, a temporary expedient to be |
| 1:22.9 | reversed as soon as humanly possible. When it's over, do we want back to normal |
| 1:27.6 | or to see coronavirus as a catalyst for change? |
| 1:30.8 | That's our moral maze tonight. |
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