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Moral Maze

Islamophobia

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.4623 Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

The anti-racism campaigner Trevor Phillips has been suspended from the Labour Party over allegations of Islamophobia. Some have described the move as “Orwellian”; others believe he has a case to answer. The issue turns on what we mean by ‘Islamophobia’ – although even to pose that question is to invite denunciation in some quarters; why split hairs when it’s obvious that anti-Muslim bigotry is rife? The Conservative party has been under attack for the allegedly Islamophobic utterances of some within its ranks, but it is waiting to agree on a definition of ‘Islamophobia’ before committing to an inquiry. It is 20 years since the term entered the political lexicon and almost a decade since Baroness Warsi declared that Islamophobia had passed the ‘dinner table test’ and become acceptable in polite society; yet, we still haven’t quite decided what it is and what it isn’t. Some people – including many Muslims – have a problem with the word itself because they think it reinforces the idea that Islam is something to be afraid of. Islam is a religion, not a race, but the definition used by the Labour Party calls Islamophobia ‘a type of racism’, because of the comparable experiences described by Muslims at the sharp end of group discrimination. Meanwhile, free speech advocates are concerned that any formal definition risks blurring the line between the unacceptable hatred of people (Muslims) and the legitimate criticism of ideas (Islam). Once we have our definition, whom should we appoint to decide whether particular words or deeds are Islamophobic? And if there’s a spectrum that runs from insensitivity and disrespect at one end to the most hideous kinds of hate crime at the other, where along that line should the law intervene? With Mohammed Amin, Myriam Francois, Ibrahim Mogra & Fiyaz Mughal.

Producer: Dan Tierney.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to a program from BBC Radio 4.

0:04.0

Good evening, not since Dr Gillotine was supposed to have been topped by his own invention,

0:08.8

has someone been so stitched up by what they've created.

0:11.8

It's not absolutely certain that Trevor Phillips first came up with the word Islamophobia,

0:17.0

but he certainly popularised it in an influential report calling for government action

0:21.4

long before he became the founding head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

0:25.8

Now it's him, of all people, that's being accused of Islamophobia

0:29.2

by, of all organisations, the Labour Party that's been unhappily mired for years now

0:34.3

in allegations of the parallel prejudice of anti-Semitism.

0:38.3

Mr Phillips has been suspended from the party to protect its reputation, his general secretary says.

0:43.8

The allegations are complex. Mr. Phillips has publicly worried about the lack of integration

0:48.5

of many Muslim communities and their attitudes on issues like women's and gay rights and

0:54.0

blasphemy.

0:55.1

Legitimate concerns his supporters say.

0:57.4

His detractors say free speech is a cloak for generalised stigma and bigotry.

1:03.0

What seems to have brought this to a head is Mr. Phillips' opposition to the idea,

1:07.2

put forward by an all-party parliamentary group and urged on the government that Islamophobia is a form of racism.

1:14.1

Mr Phillips maintains that Islam is not owned by any ethnic group and this would blur the line between the unacceptable hatred of people and the legitimate criticism of ideas.

1:25.8

The other vexed issue is how Islamophobia should be measured

1:29.5

by how the recipient experiences it or how the perpetrator intended it. Islamophobia, how should

1:36.2

it be defined, who should decide what it is, and at what point should the law intervene?

1:40.6

That's our moral maze tonight. The panel, Melanie Phillips, social commentator at the Times.

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