Hey everybody this is Daniel Vite Tallis with the ReWiled Yourself Podcast and I am kind of

giddy right now to be here with Nora Gagatous who I just met recently at the paleo effects in Austin, Texas and got the opportunity to share a stage with her for a conversation about shamanism.

So that's where we first connected, we first met, and I felt like we had a really nice connection

and chemistry on stage.

And pretty honored to have you on the show today North.

Thank you so much.

Oh, Daniel, it is such an honor and a pleasure to be here

and to be connecting with you.

I definitely feel like we've got this Simpottico thing going and it's it's refreshing for me.

You know, thank you and I want you to know that, you know, so I come into the food thing, I've been

obsessing over nutrition for about two decades but you're one of those

orthorexia guys yeah exactly I've had a good we should all be orthorexia well yeah

it's it's a great way to stay slim no just kidding so um yeah so I've

I've been you know I have been on that road for a long time and actually do come

at it from the primarily through the vegetarian vegan food, juicing, cleansing,

bent, which, you know, I've come to see a lot of great tools in,

but it can be quite a bit of a cult, you know.

So, sure.

Took me a long time to get out of it and your book was really

seminal for me it was really important in my sort of recovery from that kind of a

world and and the information in there really helped me to to kind of I be you know it was a lot of

programming that I had and I had a lot of reprogramming to do and so so it was really

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